tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.comments2023-12-08T04:59:49.932-08:00Awaiting JunoMrs. W.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00421131727849720502noreply@blogger.comBlogger443125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.post-53018350161317451992017-10-31T19:40:50.271-07:002017-10-31T19:40:50.271-07:00Hey there Mrs W,
I'm sorry that you did not ge...Hey there Mrs W,<br />I'm sorry that you did not get the birth experience that you wanted and that your wishes were not respected. <br />I totally understand where you're coming from, my experience with my daughters delivery was nothing short of harrowing. The only difference is that I was bullied and coerced into having a c-section that was unwanted and completely unnecessary. Let me tell you that having a c-section is not pain free, you don't feel the surgeon cut into you, but you feel everything else after that. After surgery when the spinal wears off, you feel the worst pain you could ever imagine. Every movement you make is excruciating and you feel like you're going to rip open and it even hurts to breathe. Most women I know who have had both c-section then a vbac have said that their c-section was more painful than their vaginal birth and given the choice they would always choose a vaginal birth. 5 years on now, I have been left with permanent nerve damage from the spinal block, subsequent back pain/sciatic pain, adhesion pain, pulling pain at the incision site & PTSD to boot. In that time I have done my research and gotten very angry that I was lied to and manipulated by a nasty misogynist. Obstetrics is a hotbed of misogyny that seeks to disempower women regardless of the method they choose to bring their child into the world. This is why women like us need to support one another and be the shouting voices for change.<br />I really hope you have been able to heal from your experience.Mrs Holly Beechamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09953030860980356451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.post-80775712143049228152017-01-14T12:14:18.916-08:002017-01-14T12:14:18.916-08:00I did not understand this note very well nor could...I did not understand this note very well nor could relate. I was more aware that women get blamed for NOT giving birth and NOT being mothers, especially if in thirties. I was unaware that other females were hostile to child-bearing females or mothers. If hostility was encountered in the entourage, it may rather be an effect of being angry or disappointed to "lose " a friend, as many parents abandon friendships when they become parents or do not have time for their friends anymore.Morulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14125661390465510199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.post-66197586684095479562016-02-03T06:39:19.162-08:002016-02-03T06:39:19.162-08:00Well said and so true. People don't realize ju...Well said and so true. People don't realize just how bad it is for the Victims and their Families. My Wife gets so upset and says the same thing. Her medical error reads like a King novel and is is blatantly obvious a 4rd grader could get it. Here's 2 links, 1 is Her story the other a petition. https://community.sumofus.org/petitions/make-dr-s-in-canada-responsible-for-medical-errors?source=facebook-share-button&time=1439422862#_=_<br /> http://fnd.us/c/115ijb/sh/55RCFdAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18217427928194887112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.post-81456446349108692882015-12-17T15:16:35.049-08:002015-12-17T15:16:35.049-08:00Yes - and it is rather disappointing. Have writte...Yes - and it is rather disappointing. Have written about it before.Mrs. W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00421131727849720502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.post-32437711147556176262015-12-02T21:29:25.182-08:002015-12-02T21:29:25.182-08:00Have you seen BC Women's hospital's "...Have you seen BC Women's hospital's "power to push" campaign?<br /><br />http://www.powertopush.caAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.post-25446700668171851062015-07-20T16:04:20.439-07:002015-07-20T16:04:20.439-07:00The degree of effort many women must make in order...The degree of effort many women must make in order to access care that meets their needs is heart wrenching. Mrs. W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00421131727849720502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.post-81700659597842934002015-07-20T16:03:06.230-07:002015-07-20T16:03:06.230-07:00Exactly - why the heck does ANYBODY feel this appr...Exactly - why the heck does ANYBODY feel this appropriate? It is not appropriate. It needs to stop. It needs to stop now.Mrs. W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00421131727849720502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.post-55480323396997029222015-07-20T01:49:27.787-07:002015-07-20T01:49:27.787-07:00This is deeply disturbing. Show me one other field...This is deeply disturbing. Show me one other field in healthcare where high-profile providers and research institutes stoop down to viciously mocking their patients` medical decisions in a cartoon. <br />Cardiologists showing a cartoon making fun of patients who choose coronary bypass instead os stenting? Oncologists mocking those who`d rather have radiotherapy instead of chemo? There`d be an outrage!<br /><br />Why the heck does anybody feel this is appropriate?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.post-75975939493590517482015-07-19T14:20:15.628-07:002015-07-19T14:20:15.628-07:00wow that cartoon is insulting. It's also infur...wow that cartoon is insulting. It's also infuriating that they are using the WHO 15% figure which as you say was quietly dropped years ago. The more recent info from the WHO (if you go to the data rather than the hyped up press release and media stories) only showed that if the CS rate was below 10% then people would die unnecessarily, but had no data on morbidity. I also read a report on maternity care in Stockholm recently, they have a very low CS rate for a developed nation, off the top of my head I think it was 13% but the rate of "obstetric trauma" was way higher than most other countries. I know several women who have needed surgery to repair the damage done by a vaginal birth who have then had to fight to get a C section next time, but sometimes it really is the best option for some people and not because it fits your schedule FFS! Thanks for sharing this (although it has made me cross!)SouthwarkBellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14643735374319567512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.post-1809346498841994292015-04-24T22:15:21.670-07:002015-04-24T22:15:21.670-07:00Hi HealthyMom - fire me an email at qualitycarefor...Hi HealthyMom - fire me an email at qualitycareforbcmothers(at)gmail(dot)com and if you are on Facebook join the cesarean by choice awareness network. I'll send you an email with more details.Mrs. W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00421131727849720502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.post-23332426215681763852015-04-24T09:58:53.676-07:002015-04-24T09:58:53.676-07:00Hi Mrs W.
I am currently planning on conceiving ...Hi Mrs W. <br /><br />I am currently planning on conceiving # 3 shortly, but given my history of painful, operative deliveries where the babies needed support in the beginning, I would strongly prefer to have a CS. Can you give me any guidance to find an OB that will assist me in my MRCS in Alberta? I don't want to wait and hope I get an OB willing to perform one while the countdown is on.MadMomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16507520858070013744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.post-22438125641420852302015-03-28T19:43:10.056-07:002015-03-28T19:43:10.056-07:00I wish you luck in the coming months!I wish you luck in the coming months!Kate Stonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16759073632384667608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.post-29022448048017475782015-01-20T12:23:11.773-08:002015-01-20T12:23:11.773-08:00That’s very enlightening, Mrs. W! Birth traumas ma...That’s very enlightening, Mrs. W! Birth traumas may go way deeper than the cuts of physical injuries, and it can sometimes affect marriage itself. I wouldn’t reiterate, since you pretty much said everything that’s to be said about it. I just hope that more people will come to realize the gravity of it, rather than merely shrugging it off as some post-natal mood phase that will pass.<br /><br /><a href="http://medicalattorneyny.blogspot.com/2014/11/consulting-bronx-medical-malpractice.html" rel="nofollow">Sabrina Craig @ The Law Offices of Joseph M. Lichtenstein</a><br />Sabrina Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06094554516202049753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.post-22974311874435931982014-11-15T19:10:49.764-08:002014-11-15T19:10:49.764-08:00I thought care in the US was bad. It's crazy t...I thought care in the US was bad. It's crazy to me that women are hated as much in Canadian society as they are in the US but even in the US women aren't made to suffer labor with no pain medicine. That's barbaric. I was always under the impression that Canadians believed in equality and human rights. This is so sad. Is there anywhere in the world where women are seen as worthy and valuable?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.post-54521287202170927052014-11-03T12:29:43.329-08:002014-11-03T12:29:43.329-08:00And for the record, I did have a "normal"...And for the record, I did have a "normal" delivery, not that I wanted it, but I had one and it's hard to convey how much I'd give to not have had one.Mrs. W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00421131727849720502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.post-896899109580207662014-11-03T12:28:39.639-08:002014-11-03T12:28:39.639-08:00I have actually done fairly extensive research in ...I have actually done fairly extensive research in this area - and would suggest that perhaps you are the person who needs to revisit the evidence after taking off the "NCB coloured" glasses that you seem to be wearing. The great thing about science is that it's true whether or not you choose to "believe" it.Mrs. W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00421131727849720502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.post-10193610087581514622014-11-01T02:30:57.430-07:002014-11-01T02:30:57.430-07:00The difference is that a baby (fetus) inside a wom...The difference is that a baby (fetus) inside a womb will not survive without his mother and a baby outside a womb will. I'm currently pregnant (by choice) and I wish to keep my baby and I wish the best for him. BUT, I know he won't survive without MY oxygen, MY vitamins, MY blood and among many others MY filtration system. Where is a baby that was carried to term (or closely to it) will survive, that baby will need around the clock care and love but from the moment he is outside the womb, he is able to breath and process nutrition all on his own without the use and total dependence on his mother’s systems. Perhaps it’s cold, but in biological terms, a fetus is best described as a parasite (unable to survive without the host), whereas a born baby described a living creature. I believe abortion is mostly avoidable process thanks to today’s education and contraception. At the end of the day, forcing a woman to keep a pregnancy (or imposing any other medical conditions), is no different than slavery. No matter how noble or moral, the end does not justify the means. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.post-8617759880794119062014-10-30T20:35:50.826-07:002014-10-30T20:35:50.826-07:00Really???? Do some research!
Interventions, espec...Really???? Do some research!<br /><br />Interventions, especially epidurals have major effects on delaying the progression of labour thus resulting in the more invasive cesarean section, not to mention the effects that it has on the infant and early breastfeeding.<br /><br />I'm not sure how you can say that childbirth be classified similarly to a disease requiring medical intervention. A woman's body does in fact and mechanisms and hormones just for supporting pregnancy, childbirth, breastfeeding and nurturing her child postpartum. <br /><br />There are other regulated professionals, such as midwives that have the ability to provide safe and effective care to a mother-infant dyad at a lower cost than physicians.<br /><br />And maybe you had an experience where you didn't have a "normal" delivery. These are just the times when a physician is required. Physicians and midwives have the ability to collaborate and refer for just these situation.<br /><br />You are certainly entitled to you opinion, but I suggest you do some research prior to expressing it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.post-85406794246725223872014-10-22T18:38:11.889-07:002014-10-22T18:38:11.889-07:00I actually don't think that an abortion is acc...I actually don't think that an abortion is acceptable in the case of rape, however I was sincerely asking the question from a place of wanting to understand and not from wanting to make anybody feel judged or hurt. I'm not somebody who agrees with standing outside an abortion clinic and telling every woman who goes in that she is killing a child. I have no idea how painful it must be to be pregnant as a result of rape and while my opinion is pretty strong about the fact that a fetus is a baby, there is no sense in my making somebody in that situation feel worse with the comments that I'm posting on somebody's blog. I just said that it is interesting to me that that happens to be the situation that everybody wants to point to when justifying abortion even though the percentage of abortions performed for that reason are probably only a fraction of those performed. <br /><br />For the most part I keep my opinions to myself, but I chose to ask you because you are obviously very intelligent and often are able to explain things in an understandable way. I don't agree with all of the parallels you draw between pregnancy and the examples you give, but it has given me a bit of perspective anyway.Trying to Understand the Other Sidenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.post-6240920424825795202014-10-18T11:16:43.733-07:002014-10-18T11:16:43.733-07:00A baby after birth and near term can live complete...A baby after birth and near term can live completely autonomous from it's mother - the risks of pregnancy have been accrued and the risks of birth have also been accrued they are "sunk costs" - that is one difference. And yes, miscarriage and pregnancy loss of a child hurts, I've never said that it doesn't, I've never said that the choice is an easy one to make - I am sure any woman who has been in those shoes has been tormented by it. There is a world of difference - a baby or a child is a person, an adult is a person they have thoughts, feelings and emotions, they have a basic set of rights that must be protected. Would I mourn a miscarriage, a potential child - yes, I probably would. But if one of my children or step-children were to die, the emotional hurt that would be incurred is magnitudes larger, as it should be. <br /><br />One of the rights that goes with being a person is self determination - and part of that is the right to decide whether or not a person wants to be a parent. <br /><br />Earlier you indicated that in the cases of rape or grave risk to the mother's life - that abortion was acceptable. Did those "Babies" choose the circumstances of their conception? Why are they "less deserving" of the "right to life" than a baby conceived unintentionally? <br /><br />Part of being an adult is sometimes making extremely difficult choices that are in the "best interests" of those involved under the circumstances. For example, having a dog is nice. But a person should not decide to have a dog if having a dog compromises their ability to ensure that they can meet their own basic needs as well as that of the dog. If a person is unable to meet their own needs because of a dog - then the responsible thing to do is to find the dog a home that can meet those needs or not to own one at all until a person can do so.Mrs. W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00421131727849720502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.post-35498264100600644112014-10-18T09:12:10.662-07:002014-10-18T09:12:10.662-07:00And FYI - telling me that I'm anti-sex because...And FYI - telling me that I'm anti-sex because of my pro-life stance is as ignorant as if I said you are anti-baby because of your pro-choice stance. All along I have said that TO ME... MY OPINION... I understand WHY a woman would want to have an abortion, where the disconnect for me is, is that the fetus is a baby. And TO ME the death of that fetus makes me feel a sense of loss the same as I would for any baby. Ask a woman who lost a baby in her womb and she doesn't mourn for the end of a pregnancy, she mourns the death of a child. Tell HER that wasn't a baby.<br /><br />But anyway, you are getting close to answering the question I originally asked. Focus on why YOU think it is a "ridiculous assertion" to say that killing is a fetus is different than infanticide. THAT is the part of the other side that I have a problem with. That one single point is the disconnect for me.Trying to Understand the Other Sidenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.post-12793485401215928442014-10-17T11:51:49.612-07:002014-10-17T11:51:49.612-07:00I was with you right up until now. Obviously if I ...I was with you right up until now. Obviously if I am trying to understand the other side I need to be able to ask questions from my side. You say I’m not interested in understanding the other side unless it agrees with my side? Perhaps you should look in the mirror. But I suppose you already know that about yourself. You see no need to understand where other people are coming from if they don't agree with you. Got it.Trying to Understand the Other Sidenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.post-61033074291379192982014-10-17T10:07:23.754-07:002014-10-17T10:07:23.754-07:00Why is it pro-lifers equate infanticide or homicid...Why is it pro-lifers equate infanticide or homicide with abortion? It is a ridiculous assertion - after birth the baby is no longer dependent on the mother's body in the same way, it is no longer a "life support system" - the physical risks of pregnancy and birth have already accrued. It is an entirely different situation.Mrs. W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00421131727849720502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.post-20444914125851470752014-10-17T10:04:20.620-07:002014-10-17T10:04:20.620-07:00So you're just anti-sex.
There's a risk o...So you're just anti-sex.<br /><br />There's a risk of getting in a car crash when somebody drives too - and when that happens we don't say, well they knew it was a possibility when they got behind the wheel, they should have just walked everywhere, let's just let them die in the vehicle or live with their injuries. We send emergency responders to car crashes and provide access to medical care to help mitigate the consequences of the risky act. <br /><br />You say you want to understand the other side - but unless that side perfectly correlates with your opinion, you seem incapable of understanding "that other side". You seem perfectly okay to subjecting women to the risks of pregnancy and childbirth - even against their will, because heaven forbid, they had the gall to have sex in the first place. Adoption is the solution - but again, that neglects the reality of both pregnancy and childbirth, and the reality of giving a child up.<br /><br />There is a point where the baby has the right to live - abortions after a certain gestation are not carried out purely for maternal choice. <br /><br />Note: Many abortions are not on 25 year old single women, many abortions are performed on women who are in their 30's or 40's and already have a number of children to care for - so you'd rather those women be forced to carry their pregnancies to term, be forced to endure the medical consequences of pregnancy and childbirth, then be forced to explain to the older siblings, why they can't keep their little brother or sister? They "could" do it - but it would come at a tremendous cost.<br /><br />It's great you know what you'd do if you found yourself in those shoes - but why take away that choice, the choice about what to do under the circumstances - from another woman? It's easy to be an armchair pro-lifer, much harder to either give the baby up for adoption or raise it properly for the next two decades.Mrs. W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00421131727849720502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1407024528817445986.post-74416124217763705382014-10-16T19:12:57.857-07:002014-10-16T19:12:57.857-07:00I never said that pregnancy was a conscious choice...I never said that pregnancy was a conscious choice. I said it is sometimes the result of a conscious choice. And I happen to have an especially hard time accepting abortion in cases where sex was a conscious choice. Everything we do in life comes with risks. Even when an attempt is made to prevent pregnancy, there is a risk (even if it might be a 1 percent chance) that birth control will fail and pregnancy will occur. What other risks do we take in life where our options to lessen the affect on ourselves allow us to take another's life?<br /><br />It's always interesting to me that everybody wants to point to a woman who becomes pregnant as a result of rape when talking about abortion when the reality is that those abortions are likely a fraction of the abortions that are performed. I can't even begin to imagine how traumatic it would be to become pregnant under those circumstances because that is not a situation where a woman is making the choice to take that 1 percent risk.<br /><br />In the case where a mother's life is at risk as a result of pregnancy: If continuing with the pregnancy means that neither the mom or the baby would survive, naturally save the life you know can save as soon as possible. In a case where it is likely that one will survive but not both - to me it becomes a question of what is the greater good. An adult already has people who depend on her so carrying out the pregnancy and having her die will affect not just her but any dependents. One person is going to die: save mom. <br /><br />Asking me how I would feel if the choice to carry on with a pregnancy was taken away from me is the same as asking me how I would feel if you killed my toddler. How do you feel when you hear about somebody killing a six month old? It is sad and tragic, whether it is your own child or somebody else's. And I think that is where it comes back to my first question: in your mind there must be a point where a baby has a right to live. Surely once the baby is born you wouldn't support a mother who has decided after a week that she no longer wants a baby so she chooses to kill it rather than give it up for adoption? It would not be okay for a healthy woman, who has all the ability, knowledge, support and everything necessary for her to know how to give the baby up for adoption to choose to kill the baby instead.Trying to Understand the Other Sidenoreply@blogger.com